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- Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 17:45:19 +0900
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>>>>> "sb" == SL Baur <steve@example.com> writes: sb> In this case, the synopsis is wrong. You mean wrong as in "incomplete"? sb> cc [ flag ... ] file ... -lm [ library ... ] Missing the above, I guess? ________________________________________________________________________ sb> Info is just another Stallman NIHism. Raaaaaaight. C'mon, Steve, what did he do to you today? sb> Man pages have worked fine for decades Man would not be man if you made it into a hierarchical format. Man is a flat database, random access to precisely specified information. Perfect (if the man page were correct) for the problem that started this thread. Abominable for humans looking for underspecified facts. man -k is just not suited to anyone below the level "Wizard". Done a ls /usr/share/man/man3 lately? No, thanks! Man is not suitable for textbooks or overviews as extensions of the manual. (Read the X(7) man page recently? Gag, puke, barf. But I don't think I could write it better in man page form. :( ) Info (and to some extent HTML[1]) are. Lispref in man page format? I don't think so. (But I admit it would beat the CL HyperSpec with a stick, what a piece of unnavigable crap!) sb> and too many recent software packages are ignoring it to the sb> detriment of everyone. Shame on GNU and shame on KDE/Gnome sb> HTML help. No question about that! The "GNU doesn't have time to update man pages" statement translates to "GNU doesn't give two shits about quality." If you can't write a man page, you shouldn't have commit privileges, 'cause you don't have any idea what your code does. (And they should take your Emacs and vi away, too. "Plastic cutlery for you, Baby Sweetums, no sharp tools.") If you _can_ write a man page, then Info can be used to provide links to it (man is not at all a bad format for Info leaves and function docstrings) and text/tutorial/overview material. Info should allow the man pages to do what they do better than any other documentation form: provide essential syntactic information in a couple of 24x80 screens. But Info is better suited to complex semantics. It does crack me up that the bash man page is _still_ easier to navigate than the bash Info docs. "Bash-specific features" in the top-level menu -- who thought _that_ crock up? I wouldn't be surprised if the man page is still more complete, too. :-) Footnotes: [1] The HTML DTD is not suited to Info-style navigation. You should not have to move the cursor to follow an xref. And there is no excuse whatsoever for <FONT> and <SIZE> tags in documentation. HTML authoring tools invite authors to do just about everything wrong. -- University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +81 (298) 53-5091 _________________ _________________ _________________ _________________ What are those straight lines for? "XEmacs rules."
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