Re: RedHat Disk Dangers? [was: Linux and ADSL]

["A.Sajjad Zaidi" <sajjad@example.com>]

I avoided 7.0 altogether, but did give 7.1 a try on a spare partition. It wasnt
long before I did a 'mkreiserfs /dev/......' and got rid of it.

A lot of things just didnt work properly. e.g. After a reboot or two, it
started giving an oops while loading the network module, most apps had a delay
of a few seconds before starting up. etc.

Im still sticking to my ancient, but stable 6.2 install + the latest updates.
Even runs mpeg-4 videos. 7.1 doesnt.

asz


Scott Stone wrote:

> yeah it was very strange... as I said when I put 7.1 on it I had it check
> the partition for bad blocks - didn't find a single one.  and usually when
> an IDE disk fails on Linux.. (actually, ALWAYS, when an IDE disk fails on
> Linux), the kernel will log ATAPI bus reset and  IDE seek errors, and none
> of that happened in this case.
>
> I didn't even rebuild the kernel on that box, either, nor anything else that
> could be defined as "core" (ie, libc).  all updates came from "Big Red" :)
>
> so anyway, congrats to RH for f*cking up a distribution in such a way that
> causes actual data loss.  Even I never did *that*.  Sure I had some betas
> that wouldn't boot, but those were betas[1]
>
> [1] don't even f*cking mention TurboLinux 1.4J.  I *really* dont want to
> talk about that :)
>
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> Scott M. Stone <sstone@example.com>
> Senior Technical Consultant - UNIX and Networking
> Taos, the Sysadmin Company - Santa Clara, CA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen J. Turnbull [mailto:turnbull@example.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 4:28 PM
> To: Scott Stone
> Cc: 'tlug@example.com'
> Subject: RedHat Disk Dangers? [was: Linux and ADSL]
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> >>>>> "Scott" == Scott Stone <SStone@example.com> writes:
>
>     Scott> why?  7.0 did something that I've never, in over 6 years of
>     Scott> using Linux, come across.  For no reason at all, just
>     Scott> COMPLETELY trashed my ext2fs file system to the point where
>     Scott> /usr/lib was no longer a directory and /lost+found
>     Scott> contained only spotty remnants of what used to be in there.
>     Scott> No bad sectors on the disk
>
> I've seen this.  I think it's a hardware problem in my case.  It's a
> Fujitsu MO drive, media 217MB formatted IIRC.  But the ext2fs would
> happily write past physical capacity and start reusing in-use blocks.
> And trashing directories.  Including the /lost+found directory.  Oops.
>
> Fortunately, that was for backup only and I found out about the
> problem before I needed it....  :-)
>
> Debian 1.2 (at that time), custom kernel 2.2.SingleDigit vintage,
> vanilla Linus sources, no patches.  Didn't matter whether it was
> mke2fs /dev/sdc or fdisk /dev/sdc1, mke2fs /dev/sdc1.  Red Hat
> _always_ fucks with the sources, and unless you read the RPM spec
> _and_ the patches, you never know what you're getting.  "Trust Big
> Red" ... about as far as I could throw a sack with Bill Gates and Bob
> Young in it.
>
> As you say, I've never seen this on a fixed disk, and only on that
> particular hardware in fact.
>
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