Re: [tlug] Re: Piping stderr?

["Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@example.com>]

>>>>> "Jiro" == Jiro SEKIBA <jir@example.com> writes:

    Jiro>  ??? What do you mean it, you meant localozed hard coded

As far as I know, that's how Bash does it (at least, libreadline docs
don't say anything about I18N).

    Jiro> patch?  Then you are absolutely right.  If not, I don't
    Jiro> understand what you mean exactly.  If you think of I18N, it
    Jiro> includes multibyte capability.

But that's not what Mike was talking about AFAIK.  Yes, Mike has
worked hard for I18N for years at SuSE, and definitely is on the side
of the angels in this.  But my understanding of the "multibyte patch"
he was talking about is the kind of thing that we've seen in software
like nemacs and j{sed,grep,gawk,perl,pine,...} for years, because
that's what's available in Bash and csh (again, AFAIK).

    Jiro> I'd like to ask you that if I18N software is acceptable for
    Jiro> you? Why/Why not?

Mostly, yes.  I need one M17N app, and XEmacs fills the bill.  For the
rest, I18N is fine.  But it needs to be built around a general
library.  If the library isn't good enough, then (a) work to enhance
it and (b) use carefully encapsulated app-specific routines when you
must.  But that's not what historically has been meant by "multibyte
patch" as you know.

I'm sick of fighting with *terms and j-apps that don't quite do it
(and often break down quite badly outside of a Japanese/English
environment).  Much better to stay inside of Mule and to use the
excellent and well-defined (if cumbersome) tools provided by glibc.

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