Re: [tlug] Verio/NTT (was: smoothwall/pppoe/ocn)

[Jonathan Byrne <jq@example.com>]

On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 12:11:19PM +0100, Godwin Stewart wrote:

>Correct. Exoduhs / Clueless & Witless = bulletproof hosting.

Actually, C&W's hands are pretty clean; Exodus brought that baggage
with them when C&W bought the company.  My experience with C&W at
that time was they were a class act.  I'd happily work for them
again or recommend them to others, based on what I saw of them.

bpmailer aka bulletproof is among the worst offenders of the lot.
There is a large spam ring operating in eastern Europe, and judging
by various bits of circumstantial evidence I've seen, BP either is
in league with this ring, or perhaps *is* this ring.  One proxy
to bring them all, and in the relayness spam them :-p

>Mind you, the latest trend is to move the spamvertized websites off-shore
>and host them in Brazil (telemar and embratel like writing pink contracts)
>or in China (the whole of the Chinese internet is completely corrupt).

Oh, it's horrible.  And Brazil has all these second-level domains that
I've never encountered anywhere else so far: art.br, pro.br, tmp.br 
(what the heck does that mean?  Is it a second-level domain Brazil came
up with just to host temporary throwaway domains for spammers?).
And China has gotten so bad as a spam haven that they need to reverse
their Great Firewall so that it keeps stuff *IN* instead of keeping
stuff out.

It's a spammiful day in the neighborhood, a neighborly day in the spammihood..

Jonathan
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