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- Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 20:04:43 +0900
- From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@example.com>
- Subject: [tlug] Ease of use: the eXPerience [was: Suse blues]
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- Organization: The XEmacs Project
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>>>>> "sjt" == Stephen J Turnbull <stephen@example.com> writes: sjt> Yes, having experienced the nirvana of an OS where you can sjt> hotswap network drivers and even change your IP address sjt> without rebooting, one where the string "Abort/Retry/Fail?" sjt> exists nowhere in the whole system, you will find it very sjt> painful to have to reboot every so often, and reinstall the sjt> whole OS every so often. And I thought I was maybe overstressing the point! So here I am sitting in front of a Windows XP box wondering WTF he was talking about, "ease of use." It's yosan-tsubushi[1] time again, so I bought copies of Windows XP and Visual .NET. Maybe we can debug (== prove that Microsoft has undocumented features we're not compatible with) some of the brand-new bugs that have been reported since a few XEmacs users started worshipping the false god, XP. Here we go.... I stick the CD in the drive, it starts up as usual (ie, heaven help me if Microsoft has once again distributed software with the viruses and trojans already installed in their own executables), and I'm faced with a screen telling me that my brand-new Windows XP installation (I mean, the Windows XP install disk is still warm) needs to be upgraded: security, remote debugger, .NET framework. Raaaaight. So I put in the "component upgrade CD", and it tells me I should enable some remote components, which require remote downloads. OK, so I plug in the ethernet cable (never give a connection to a Windows box until _you_ are ready), and discover that it's somehow not compatible with the local DHCP server (that could be our fault, of course). Configure by hand (NB, the menu tree has been completely rearranged since Windows 2000, which of course was different from NT 4, NT 3.5, NT 3.1, 98, ME, WfW, and 3.1---95 was the same as 98, and I never had to configure a 3.0 box). Typo means that I can't even ping my gateway, fix that, we're golden. Install the remote stuff (from where? nobody said), put the VS.NET CD back in, whirr! and 10 seconds later (most of which was spent finding the drive AFAICT), something about "installing Japanese support" flashes by, and it says "kanryo, click here". Uh-oh. Yup; I've got a remote debugger that tells me in Japanese (at least it didn't call me "o-mae") that required libraries aren't installed. Open the exploiter, find the disk, click it, restart. "You've already got an installation. It cannot be changed or upgraded, you must remove it and reinstall from scratch." Gotcha. Remove. Reinstall ... here we go. Seems to be working (but why does it take multiple hours to install? I could burn a copy---five disks' worth---if only that were legal---in less time). No, it's not working. It was unable to copy some images. Hopefully the rest will be OK ... nope, out of several hundred images, it reports successfully copying _two_. Hey! What a great idea---a GUI devo environment without graphics!! Can I have my Nirvana back, please? I think the XP installation went OK, so MSFT is batting .500. Pretty good, considering the billions they've spent on this. ;-) Footnotes: [1] I can't not spend it and I can't give it to someone else. I can't spend it on travel, let alone international travel; I can't spend it rewarding experimental subjects---apparently the human subjects committee objects to over-paying students; if I spend it on books, the library gets them first, and only when their arbaito gets around to registering them do they come to me---except if they weigh more than about 2kg, in which case I get a polite note asking me to come pick them up; until next year, I can't spend it on conference registration fees; I can't spend it on membership fees for an academic society. Aren't you taxpayers glad that I bought a MSFT product instead? -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.
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