Re: [suse-linux-ja] Re: [tlug] Suse blues-progress?

[paul arenson <paul@example.com>]

I got this from the person who had same problem as me, but I am unsure yet why 
he needed to do it.....

Lyle mentioned his does Japanese as is.

And what about other suggestionsin this list
(which may be for English systems addding Japanese?)



On Monday 08 March 2004 02:03, you wrote:
> Paul, in the meantime I solved this issue:
>
> 1. canna server: At the time of my question, I run my system in DHCP mod
> allowing to change the client name (see YAST installation of a network
> card). If you don't allow this (just unmarking the option), then the clinet
> name is ugroh@example.com and everything works fine (Q: How to change this
> behaviour of the canna server).
>
> 2. Japanese input: One has to set the LC_CTYPE variable as described in
> Mike's paper in the net (http://www.suse.de/~mfabian/). I am doing this in
> ~/.profile and in ~.xim (using the .xim.template file provides with the
> system).
>
> 3. One has to install the UTF-8 und ucl support (also for emacs).
>
> 4. Using xim, canna etc. everything is working perfect. I can use emacs to
> write Japanese, including this into LaTeX etc. I also can search the
> bookstores for Japenese books like the one for 囲碁 (= IGO).
>
> 5. One has toi install als Japanese stuff. It is a pity, that the CJK
> support is not grouped on the CD/DVD  of SuSE.
>
> Best regards
>
> Ulrich
>
> http://www.nofost.de
>
> Am Sonntag März 7 2004 17:02 schrieb paul arenson:
> > David Nettles on tis list and various people on tlug (Japan) have been
> > trying to advise...
> >
> > Here is my latest discovery, followed by a few people's suggestions:
> >
> > I WROTE THIS TO THE OTHER LIST
> >
> > --->
> >  Well, I have been stumped by the problem of no Kanji input.
> >
> >  I was asked to cut and paste, and noted I could not cut and paste a
> >  dialogue box message. BUT I WAS ABLE TO COPY DESKTOP VIA GIMP. IT IS
> > ATTACHED, IF SUCH IMAGES ARE ALLOWED.
> >
> >  I went back and reviewed some old messages from here and other places,
> > but it seems they might apply to running Linux installed in English.  I
> > did a Japanese install and have the same problem.  At least one user on
> > TLUG, Lyle, has tried both and in Japanese, seems to be ok with Kanji
> > input.
> >
> >
> >  What I HAVE found, is that I can pop in a Knoppix Japanese disk CD and
> > get Japanese with it.  So it SEEMS my computer is not incapable....
> >
> >  Dr. Fabian sent me something, but it seems related to ENGLISH
> > systems..... so I will wait on that....
> >
> >  Others here have sent suggestions too, but again, seem to be related to
> >  English installations to which I want to add Kanji.
> >  --------------------------------------------------------------
> >  Just NOW I found this on the net!
> >
> >  THIS SEEMS TO BE EXACTLY THE SAME PROBLEM
> >
> >
> >  http://lists.suse.com/archive/m17n/2002-Dec/0008.html
> >  "From: ugroh@example.com (Ulrich Groh)
> >  Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 11:24:50 +0100
> >  Message-Id: <200212291124.50430.ugroh@example.com
> >  Subject: [m17n] Canna Server
> >
> >   I am running SuSE 8.1. and have the following problem with the canna
> >  server:
> >
> >  1. In xemacs I can't use japanese-canna . I always get the message "...
> >  Kanji server can't be used" in japanese. I can enter Hiragana but not
> >  Kanji.
> >
> >  2. The canna server is running. I stoped and restarted it with the
> >   /etc/init.d/canna command.
> >
> >  3. If I use cannstat or cshost I always get the message "Error
> >  Disconnected"
> >
> >  4. In my /etc/hosts.canna file I have localhost and unix as entry.
> >
> >  How can I find out what I am missing? "
> >
> >  -------------------------------------------------
> >  This message suggests there is a subset of people who have troubles with
> >  Kanji but not Kana........
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  Meanwhile....THIS suggestion from someone (refelecting what some others
> >  have said) seems worth trying, but I get the feeling it is for English
> >  systems.
> >
> >  Please try the following:
> >
> >  1. Open konsole
> >  2. Type "kinput2 -canna -xim &" and hit return
> >  3. Type "XMODIFIERS=@example.com=kinput" and hit return
> >  4. Type "export XMODIFIERS" and hit return
> >  5. Type "LC_CTYPE=ja_JP LANG=en_US kterm -xim &" and hit return
> >
> >  This assumes that kinput2 and kterm (Kanji Terminal) are installed.
> >  When kterm shows up, you should be able to enter Kanji mode with
> >  Shift+Space (or Control-O? I don't know if the defaults are different on
> >  SuSE).
> >
> >  You may also want to look for im-ja, which is a japanese IME for GTK2,
> > much nicer than kinput2/XIM, but it will only work with GTK2 apps.
> >
> >  ------------------------------------
> >
> > SIMILAR ADVICE WAS FROM THIS PERSON, WITH MY COMMENTS APPENDED:
> > >>>There are two options available to you here:
> >
> > But is this so even if Suse is installed in Japanese
> > and it is supposed to be working?   Based on, for examle, Lyle's
> > example?   I wonder if this is just one of the idiosyncracies of
> > Linux/Suse, that some things do not work for some people, or
> > if there is something going wrong that will be revealed by my posting the
> > below screen shot or referring to the other eprson who had the same
> > trouble?
> >
> > If there is no choice, then I guess I will haveto look at the below
> > as a solution.
> >  
> >
> > >1. Use kinput2-wnn. It's a bitch to start up, because it requires you to
> >
> > specify a file called wnnenvrc each time you start kinput2, but this can
> > be done from .xinitrc anyway.
> >
> > >2. Use uim-anthy or im-ja. Both have a XIM bridge which allows them to
> >
> > work with XIM, and can get by fine with libanthy and no backend server.
> > im-ja can optionally use Canna.
> >
> > Is this something I have to install?
> >
> > >I personally loathe both Canna and Wnn (And all backend servers for that
> >
> > matter), so I went with 2.
> >
> > That sounds good to me, though I first want to understand why it
> > doesn't work as I hoped it would.
> >
> > >Good luck!
> > >
> > >-David
> >
> >  But I STILL HOPE  this message, so similar to my own will lead to some
> > discovery..
> >
> >  http://lists.suse.com/archive/m17n/2002-Dec/0008.html
> >
> > Thanks in advance...
> >
> >
> >
> >  paul

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