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- Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 12:26:58 +0900
- From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@example.com>
- Subject: Re: [tlug] Learning Emacs
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- Organization: The XEmacs Project
- User-agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) XEmacs/21.5-b22 (cucumber, linux)
>>>>> "Micheal" == Micheal E Cooper <network-admin@example.com> writes: Micheal> a yoki senpai suggested vi 'because no matter what flavor Micheal> or how old, any *nix system has vi." Sure. They also have head, tail, and echo, and you can get a lot of editing done with those three tools and judicious redirection. Not to knock vi, I use it too; Emacs exposes far too much of the operating system for comfort on a web-facing server, but pico and nano (not to mention head/tail/echo) lack the essential navigation tool of regexp search. The right tool for the job. But you should remember that the whole point of free software (besides creating a religious cult -- does anybody have an URL to the page with side by side JPEGs of rms and Shoko Asahara?) is that you _can_ adapt the system to yourself. You don't have to settle for for something that is installed everywhere, because nowadays everything is "available" everywhere. Of course, us old-timers (not to mention a lot of wet-behind-the-ears young whippersnappers ... but I digress) tend to focus on the micro-micro "tune your Emacs the way you tune your Cinelli" aspects, but _everybody_ (including my late mother) can benefit from the macro aspects. I mean the explosive diffusion of easy-to-use tools for adapting your system by installing and upgrading applications. Of course Linux systems are famous for yummy, aptly named tools spinning at high rpm at the core of the distro, but the *BSDs have gone in a different direction: creating ports or packages distros that run on _many_ systems. DarwinPorts of course started with the Mac but most ports can be installed on Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD (and theoretically Solaris, but I've not seen any reports of that). The NetBSD pkgsrc distro can be set up on practically any *nix including Solaris and HP/UX (and I know of people who have installed XEmacs via pkgsrc on Solaris, HP/UX, and even AIX). The GNU system isn't bad, either, you've got Cygwin and MSYS for Windows, but it's not as automated as pkgsrc or DarwinPorts. You will run into employers who strictly control what is installed on their systems, for good reasons and bad. If it's that important to keep Emacs (or whatever your weapon of choice is) out of the system, then they'd better be willing to pay for it, either in training you in what they do make available or waiting for you to get up to speed. Sure, you'll miss the occasional job, but when you do land a position, both you and your employer will be more productive and happier. You'll have to decide how bad you want that first interview to turn into an offer, but at least think about productivity in the long run as a potential tradeoff here. -- School of Systems and Information Engineering http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.
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