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- Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:51:59 +0900
- From: bruno raoult <bruno@example.com>
- Subject: Re: [tlug] VT100 Display Capability in Email (Re: Rendering HTMLEmail)
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Godwin Stewart wrote: > HTML bloat is even more undesireable in foreign languages where accents are > used. Think of the past participle "créé", 4 letters. Now put it into HTML > as coded in e-mails and you get "créé" - 18 characters. So, > in a multipart/alternative mail, you get the original 4 letters plus the 18 > characters of the HTML version, that's 22 in total, and a 450% increase in > size, *and* I'm not counting the markup. > > Now consider that ISPs *pay* for the bandwidth their subscribers consume > even if they don't visibly pass those costs down to the user in many > countries. If things get out of hand they have to increase the subscription > fee in order to pay for the excess bandwidth. In some countries, broadband > subscribers frequently have bandwidth quotas imposed, in others they pay > according to bandwidth used. Hi Godwin. HTML is different from encoding: It is possible to encode HTML in UTF-8, for instance, avoiding these long sequences. Anyway, I think it is not really a problem: Even if we consider that 5%-10% of French characters are special and need this 400% size increase, this would hardly disturb your ISP. Much less than usual "reply without cutting old parts of messages", and especially binary attachments. For instance, your own email, base-64 encoded, used around 1,500 bytes for 950 useful bytes (Just made "wc" on part of the message source and the equivalent part of the message in my mailer - forgive me if the numbers are not fully exact). But I agree, HTML costs more than plain text. But you get colors ;-) No, this *not* a troll, and it is probably not necessary to answer this last sentence, Stephen :) br. -- GPG Key: 653514E5 (http://www.raoult.com/gpg) -- "Is that all?" asked Alice. "That is all." said Humpty Dumpty. "Goodbye." -- Lewis CarrolAttachment: signature.asc
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