Re: [tlug] MySQL 4.1.15, or MySQL 5.0?

[Walter Hansen <gandalf@example.com>]

Josh Glover wrote:
> Just be willing to back up your statements with references. That way,
> readers can form their own opinions based on the same reading that you
> did.
>
> -Josh
>
> [1] http://www.incogen.com/index.php?type=Product&param=GenePort

I surely didn't intend to spark an argument on php. I'm sorry if my 
views were seen as such.

I've only done a little work in php4 and haven't even touched 5. However 
my php teacher chose to teach 4 instead of 5 stating that the changes in 
5 made most code done in 4 break. He said that it was a major re-design 
with OOP bing the large difference. I haven't really gotten into OOP 
under 4, so I don't really know what is there and what's not.

In addition this Wednesday I was at a Sys Admin meeting and we were all 
seeing a presentation on Nagios and varrious configuration and 
monitoring tools, but the author of Fruity

http://sourceforge.net/projects/fruity/

one such configuration tool. He stated that it will only work with php5 
as he simply had to have the OOP to create it. So if you want fruity you 
have to have 5. I thought fruity looked nice and the software he 
unveiled later looked even better (pretty expensive stuff, but with a 
$16,000 price tag on the premium version; there is a open source 
version, but it doesn't have all the bells and whistles) but it's really 
only nessicary for monitoring truely huge opeartions.

Myself I think I'll play with Nagios sometime soon and configure to send 
me text messages if anything goes down on any of my handful of servers. 
I understand it can even watch the couple win servers that I administer 
and need lots of TLC (ie rebooting).

I really like perl. I'm not fond of OOP, perhaps I should be. I rather 
like php for web use. I had programmed in C, C++, Pascal, Basic, Visual 
Basic (at least the Access version), Assembly and even raw machine code. 
Most of these I haven't programmed in for some time. My php class got 
interrupted by personal matters and I was unable to complete it. I 
wanted to take a class in it to be well rounded for writing in the 
language as I've already done quite a bit of work in it without any 
formal training.

Most of my programming these days relates to databases or web sites. I 
also find myself directing a php programmer on a very elaborate web 
interface. I love to program although it seems I get to do it less and 
less these days. I don't consider myself a linux guru, but I do love to 
do projects in it. I've never programmed in a normal windows platform; 
access visual basic being the exception.

This is all probably way to much information. I assume the other person 
discussing php has been programming in the language very actively and 
probably well exceeds my skills in the language. My first experience 
with php was elaborating on someone else's code after a one day 
on-the-job cram session of the language using internet resources.

I think it's pretty funny that when I modify code that I wrote years ago 
 I can't help but think "what idiot wrote this?"