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- Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 10:31:50 +0900
- From: Micheal E Cooper <mcooper@example.com>
- Subject: [tlug] virtualization (was "Running multiple web development environments on one machine")
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Keith Bawden wrote:Are VMware, qemu, and UML really that easy to use now? What about Xen? RH website says they were going to include it as integral part of RHEL5 and FC5, but the project is changing too quickly. I would really like to try out virtualization solutions in the near future, but I must admit that I am a bit intimidated... and I would need to buy a machine capable of it.Hello,Grab a copy of VMware and install as many "test" environments as you want (or have the RAM/HDD for). That way you can test in the same environment (even same distro) as your clients hosted one.I say VMware because it is quite cheap and easy to use, and will allow you to get up and running in short order. You will also be able to install Windows XP so you can test your work out under IE without needing to reboot.If VMware is not for you you could try qemu, or UML. Regards, KeithThe O'Reilly Useractive courses seem to be taught with each student getting root on a virtual machine. I am embarrassed to admit that I am taking these courses, but I was really in a rut for a while, and I had a gap between my present IT job and my IT education that left me out of touch with a lot of details and rusty. The courses are helping me get back into the studying frame of mind. But the interesting thing here is the way the sandbox for users is set up.From an explanation I wrote to my よき先輩: ------ You log into a DMZ server at useractive named 'hot' or 'cold', then you use an ssh wrapper command ('hottub') to connect to one of the 'hottub' servers (there are at least two). The user home directories are all on NFS shares, it seems. Then from there it gets more interesting. There are a large number of 'bubble' servers to which you can connect fromthe 'hottub' servers. The metaphor is wonderful, because the hot and cold water go in the hottub, and you must get in the hottub before you can play with the bubbles.It feels just like you are using separate machines, but they must be virtual machines, because the first time that you ssh into one (again through a wrapper called 'bubble' that hooks you up with an available bubble server named something like bubble17) it takes aminute or so to boot. You do exercises through ssh, going back and forth betweenyour bubble and the hottub. Here comes the fun part: in the section that I just did, which goes through manually setting an IP address and default gateway and rebooting, it uses a command called 'console,' which is a wrapper for screen, and it gives you the same access as if you were sitting at theconsole of the (virtual) hardware itself. You reboot, and you watch most of theshutdown and boot processes through this ssh->ssh->screen connection. It is pretty neat, or at least I thought it was. Might be cold oatmeal to you, but I felt that it really demonstrated the kind of plain but useful training tools that smart people can set up with basic opensource tools. Nothing flashy or gimmicky, with animation and cheesy models and business jargon about TCO. Just a clean, basic, and lucid educational environment.------On an aside (and a much less-important query), I wonder how long it will take folks to get virtualization on the new intelMacs going, so that one machine is running OSX, Windows, and Linux all at the same time?mecbegin:vcard fn:Micheal Cooper n:Cooper;Cooper org:Miyazaki International College;Computing Services adr:;;1405 Kano;Kiyotake;Miyazaki;8891602;Japan email;internet:mcooper@example.com tel;work:0985-85-5931 tel;fax:0985-84-3396 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.mic.ac.jp version:2.1 end:vcard
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