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- Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 08:59:36 +0900
- From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@example.com>
- Subject: Re: [tlug] Apple owns CUPS
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Josh Glover writes: > But if software is once released by the GPL, the community can > continue to release derived works from the GPL'd codebase, right? As I wrote to Attila, this simply is not clear. In the FSF interpretation, the GPL is a *gift*, and therefore the terms are defined by the licensor. If I say "your computer can't seem to connect? please use mine", does that imply that you can use it forever? Of course not. It's a license until I say otherwise. And IIRC that's precisely what the GPL says. "You may redistribute." It doesn't say "forever". In law, copyright is the property of the copyright holder, and AFAICT the analogy of "OK, stop copying ... now!" to "OK, give back my PC ... now!" is exact, in law. Now, there is a legal concept called reliance. If somebody says, you may do this or that, and you have reason to believe that they mean it, and you expend some cost relying on that belief, then you may have cause for relief if the licensor tries to withdraw permission. This reliance AIUI becomes the consideration in an implicit contract, and that is what allows us to have some confidence as users that the GPL prevents us from being prosecuted in the future. But note how the FSF interpretation confuses things here! By emphasizing that there is no contract involved, that it is a gift, it gives further legal standing to an attempt to withdraw the gift. There are two other theories I know of. The first is that the copyright holder of a work derived from a GPLed work is bound by his obligations under the GPL. If upstream intends the GPL to be a permanent gift, then arguably "same terms" implies that the implicit perpetual term of the upstream license must carry over to downstream. That would mean that derivative works have at least as long a term as the original work. The second is that some copyright holders like the FSF are bound by covenants of incorporation. However, the only theory that is available to all licensees is reliance. N.B. All of the above may apply only in U.S. law, I don't know how it would work in Europe. Of course IANAL and TINLA.
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