Re: [tlug] ftp client for linux

["Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@example.com>]

Andrew Errington writes:
 > On Friday 26 October 2007 15:46, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
 > > Brian Chandler writes:
 > >  > how to get an ftp client running. The next thing is a programming
 > >  > editor: how should I _start_ this task?
 > >
 > > Emacs.  Finish with Emacs too.  And get an LCD ftp client, and then
 > > hide it behind XEmacs/EFS or GNU Emacs/angeftp.
 > >
 > >  > I'm trying to use SSH,
 > >
 > > Just use OpenSSL, and hide that behind Emacs/TRAMP.
 > >
 > > Emacs is NOT for everyone, but it IS for everything. ;-)
 > 
 > Ahh, but if you are using KDE then you can use Kedit to open a file from an 
 > ftp site, do your changes, and when you save, Kedit will send the file back 
 > up to the server. 

Emacs has been doing that for twenty years.  What's the big deal?

 > Furthermore, if you install the 'fish' KIO slave then you 
 > can do the same thing with an SSH server.

Emacs has been doing that for ten years.  What's the big deal?

 > I love KDE.

Which is basically a bunch of riffs on techniques pioneered by Lucid
Emacs (at least the pioneer in free software).

It has occurred to me that had Lucid come out of the Great Fork as the
primary maintainer of Emacs, neither GNOME nor KDE would likely exist
as they do today.  It's a damn shame that rms sees Emacs more as a
Socialist Tool than as a useful program to be improved.