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- Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:19:55 +0200
- From: Attila Kinali <attila@example.com>
- Subject: Re: [tlug] STM (was: Re: work times & accommodation @tokyo)
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:30:43 +0900 Curt Sampson <cjs@example.com> wrote: > > Does STM work in real world applications? > > I can see no reason why it wouldn't. Keep in mind, it's not very > different from standard locking that most threaded applications are > using already; STM in combination with other things in Haskell just > allows you to easily compose your locking primitives and type-check > their composition. I could see a couple of reasons why STM cannot work the first time i read about it. So this argument "why shouldn't it" is pretty much void. As an example, imagine two tasks doing some work on exactly the same data set in a loop, over and over again. Task B takes longer than task A to finish its work. Because at the time when task A commits, B's input will have changed it must abort its operation and restart. But because A already started with the next run, A will finish before B does and thus B will have to abort/restart its work again. ad inifitum. (ie the simple task A starves task B example) With conventional locking this can be avoided given a proper locking strategy (ie without changing the algorithm). I cannot see how this can be avoided with STM. Attila Kinali -- The true CS students do not need to know how to program. They learn how to abstract the process of programming to the point of making programmers obsolete. -- Jabber in #holo
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