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- Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:04:12 +0900
- From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@example.com>
- Subject: Re: [tlug] GPL Quote
- References: <20081225043928.GA18861@smtp.office.cynic.net> <20081225084940.GB8200@fluxcoil.net> <a68c12870812250126k45dab63aoa365cbfeef368be4@mail.gmail.com> <87prjgvfsx.fsf@xemacs.org> <20081225103509.GG18861@smtp.office.cynic.net> <20081225211844.GA9359@fluxcoil.net> <20081226033957.GA3985@lwh.jp> <87d4ffv5bk.fsf@xemacs.org> <20081226072452.GB3985@lwh.jp>
葉潤 理男 writes: > > > No, you can do whatever you want on your own machine (although some > > > EULAs would have you believe otherwise, DMCA notwithstanding). [...] > On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 03:06:07PM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > Giving misinformation on these points is not a friendly thing to do. > > Of course I don't intend to mislead anyone. You've taken my original > comment a bit out of context here (although it is admittedly vague) - The road to hell is paved with lack of bad intentions. One of the problems is that you are in a context where the leaders of the community (I mean RMS among others) regularly engage in double talk. It is very important to write accurately about these matters, because misunderstanding is rampant in the community. > 'whatever you want' is talking about a GPL-ed application that you have > obtained legitimately (as in the original post). That's a possible interpretation, but then it leaves the clause about EULAs without a subject. I think that the only interpretation a reasonable person could come up with regarding that clause is "EULAs that attempt to restrict what you do with your own machine have no force." > > Also, some of the implied licenses can be revoked by explicit terms in > > the EULA, others cannot. > > Has this been tested in court? (Perhaps it has and EULAs are stronger > than I thought). I think you are thinking of some of the stronger implicit licenses. I'm talking about ones that are weaker because they are most likely to occur in a profit-making context. My understanding is that unless the EULA says otherwise, you can install copies of the software on a shared file system and use it on any machine that can access that share, even though the vendor rarely has that kind of use in mind when they sell shrink-wrapped software. However, it is possible for a EULA to prohibit such sharing, and of course many now do. Similarly, as far as I know the prohibition of using fonts distributed with Microsoft Word on a non-Windows OS on the same machine where Windows is installed is enforceable, though I don't know of a court test. However, normally a court would say "you have a legitimate copy of a font, you can use it to display text". Note that fonts are a special case, IP in fonts is weird in the U.S. (something about you can't copyright glyphs but you can copyright a font<blink>). > > Copyright comes into play as soon as you do anything > > but try to run a binary or view source, since you can't do anything > > with software without making copies (eg, long-term media to RAM to > > cache to CPU). > > What about compiling the source, or modifying the code? Of course you > can't release either of those without a license, but on your own machine > this comes under fair use. I'm sorry, it does not. You need permission to do both of those, which the GPL grants. Cf. the GPL itself (V2, but V3 has similar wording): 4. You may not copy, modify, sublicense, or distribute the Program except as expressly provided under this License. Any attempt otherwise to copy, modify, sublicense or distribute the Program is void, and will automatically terminate your rights under this License. 5. You are not required to accept this License, since you have not signed it. However, nothing else grants you permission to modify or distribute the Program or its derivative works. These actions are prohibited by law if you do not accept this License. (Note that compiling is translation, which under U.S. copyright law is considered a form of modification.)
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