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- Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:22:40 +0900
- From: Curt Sampson <cjs@example.com>
- Subject: Re: [tlug] programmer competency matrix
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Joe, Thanks for your great comments. Many of them are things I already know about and agree with, others I now agree with after further thought. You're right that the matrix has a lot of faults. I'd forgotten about the silliness of the API memorization thing (I'm in API docs all the time, myself), and so I need some phrasing to fix that. Any suggestions on phrasing? The "higher levels include the lower" thing works for a fair number, though not all, of the rows, especially if you take it in the general sense, rather than relying on the specifics. Take the data structures row as an example. For others, the more common cases, at least, are covered; how many people learn FP before they learn OO, or more precisely, how many functional programmers are not familiar with OO? We could fix the others by working out some sort of branching system, but I don't think that this is worthwhile, for reasons I'll describe below. For all the problems it has, I think that the matrix is far above the level of a checklist of acronyms. Surely you aren't going to argue that "no RDBMs experience" vs. "uses MySQL once in a while" vs. "understands the relational algebra" is no more useful than "RDBMS: yes or no". Moving beyond all of that, you're right that programming tests are a better measure. Are they the *best* measure? No: for example, working with someone for three months is better. So why do we bother with anything else? Cost. Having someone work with us costs a lot of money. We obviously don't want to offer a three month contract to everybody who applies. Even the relatively short pair-programming sessions are quite expensive, both for us and the candidate. Two non-billable days for me will easily cost me 150,000 yen or more in lost revenue (yes, Starling is currently turning down billable work), and the candidate as well loses two days he could be spending doing other things. It makes sense to have a graduated process that tries to weed out the obviously unsuitable candidates before we hit that stage. So long as we run the process in the appropriate way so as not to produce too many false negatives, we're only saving everybody time and money. If you look at where the matrix is in our process, you'll notice that we ask for it with the resume. We consider resumes to be moderately useful to disqualify candidates, and basically useless as a positive indicator. The matrix is in the same category. However, it's quick to fill out, will probably cover some interesting ground that the resume doesn't, and serves one further purpose. This is not something we normally talk about, but in trade for such a good response from you, I'll tell you our little secret about the matrix. One thing that it gives us is the ability to get some sense of how a candidate rates himself, which gives direct insight into how clueful he is. The Dunning-Kruger effect[1] explains that people who are less competent tend to overrate themselves, and very competent people tend to underrate themselves. By comparing experience on a resume and the answers to the matrix, I can tell if someone's rating of himself seems completely out of whack. Given an interview, I can start filling in my own mental copy of the chart and comparing the answers. This, as with the resume itself, is highly inaccurate as any kind of positive indicator, but as a negative indicator it can be useful. [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect Given that the matrix takes only about five minutes to fill out (significantly less time than writing a cover letter), it's hardly a burden on the candidate, and I think it provides enough useful information to justify the cost. cjs -- Curt Sampson <cjs@example.com> +81 90 7737 2974 Functional programming in all senses of the word: http://www.starling-software.com
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