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- Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 13:09:22 +0100
- From: Jun-Dai Bates-Kobashigawa <jd.lists@example.com>
- Subject: Re: [tlug] GPL vs. paid version and ethics
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> My point is, that comercial software development as i know it sucks. > And mind you, i've been in 5 companies already. Some of them with > formal procedures, but hardly anything that i'd call even remotely > sufficient to produce good code. At best, i've seen mediocre code > from the better coders. Bad coders went usually unchecked as long > as the stuff they wrote somehow worked. While it's certainly true that commercial software has different (and frequently changing) priorities, it's certainly a stretch to say that commercial software development as a rule produces bad code and OSS produces good (or better) code. I've waded enough into the dark depths of Spring, Hibernate, and Ivy to have aged a few extra years (and Spring itself is quite uneven—some of it is easy to read, some of it uses rather out-of-vogue ideas of object orientation, and some of it is just a tremendous mess of spaghetti). On the other hand, there's very little commercial software I've worked on that I would consider "worse" code than what I've encountered trying to troubleshoot Ivy. Commercial software built to last at least has the motivation of knowing that many of the same people will have to live with the software in the years to come, and as a result I've never worked on a team that did not dedicate time to pay down technical debt. If anything, I think the main problems in commercial software are the habit to over-architect. I.e., building generalised frameworks to solve unique problems, or implementing high-minded "best practices" where a more pragmatic approach is called for. Code quality can at least be refactored (albeit painfully), but too much architecture is usually a difficult and time-consuming problem to either fix or live with. If I'm going to invest a lot of time and money building software on top of something and will frequently need to peer under the hood, I'll pretty much always choose OSS (Rails, Spring, MyBatis, JQuery, Camel+CXF, etc.). Otherwise it's kind of up for grabs. I don't really care whether IntelliJ is written with better code, but it's much easier to use and nicer to look at than Eclipse. Before Git, Perforce would be my SCM of choice. As others have pointed out, there is a tendency within a given market for commercial products (particularly professional ones) to have a higher degree of usability and more polish to them. On the other hand, OSS generally does a better job of fulfilling needs for which there is limited commercial incentive, and in areas where stability and troubleshoot-ability are far more important than usability. Exceptions abound, of course. Yours, Jun-Dai Bates-Kobashigawa
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