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- Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 23:48:35 +0900
- From: Curt Sampson <cjs@example.com>
- Subject: Re: [tlug] A Crowdfunding Crash
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On 2013-08-01 17:29 +0900 (Thu), Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > It would be reasonably simple to solve, too; simply require the > investment banks to disclose how much and which part of these fancy > derivatives they're holding themselves. (Lehmann went down because > they sold off the attractive parts of the debt, and kept the risky > parts for themselves.) You may well be more expert than me on this, I don't know. But that doesn't sound at all simple to me given that someone's got to be doing valuations and risk analysis on the instruments, and on such complex ones there's always room for plenty of disagreement there before the darn things mature and we see how things worked out. Typically you try to use markets to take care of this problem, but that has its own problems in dealing with players of vastly disparate sizes. Michael Lewis, in _The Big Short_, tells the story of some smart players who took on the bet against the big banks on their CDOs. However, being small players in an over-the-counter contract with big banks, they had the banks' valuations (rather than their own, or something in between) forced on them and, being small, they of course couldn't muster up the margin to maintain their position based on what they considered an utterly stupid valuation anyway, so the market simply couldn't work. It's an utterly fascinating story, and I'd love to get your opinion on it sometime. cjs -- Curt Sampson <cjs@example.com> +81 90 7737 2974 To iterate is human, to recurse divine. - L Peter Deutsch
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