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[Thomas Bätzler <tbaetzle@example.com>]

>Michael Chiu wrote:
>ahh... sophisticated = user-friendliness then?  You're probably right
>though... most sysadmins I know of started off with a UNIX environment and
>went on to the NT environment (for those that are using NT that is)... but I

Well, such are the things that we sysadmins have to do to keep the 
bread money coming in :-) It's not that you graduate on Unix in
order to be able to administer a NT environment; it's rather that you
are forced to accept the "Gooey Challenge" if you want to keep your 
job.   

>somewhat disagree with your definition of sophisticated... to me, a person
>is sophisticated, in the sense of computers, when they can skip from one
>platform to the next... I often get confused going back and forth between
>the DOS prompt and the LINUX prompt since I tend to forget which environment
>I am working in... sometimes I press "ls" where I should have press "dir"

Ever thought of doing a nice .profile on your Linux box where you 
alias the most common commands to their DOS counterparts?
A purist might hate the idea, but hey, if it helps...

>for example... but to me, NT is like an "improvement" (term used very
>lightly) of UNIX... what I mean is that it is an "easier" to operate than

Point&Click, maybe. But it sure is a nightmare from an admin's POV.
Programs store vital configuration data in undocumented "registry"
structures without giving you an easy way to export/import/backup
them - you have to keep track of your data manually, plus you have
to edit data manually in a "nice and friendly" GUI. This sure sucks
when you need to change a few dozen (or hundreds) of records, which
you could have done in a few minutes using tools like sed, awk or perl,
if you only had plain text config files. 

>UNIX  NOS... therefore, I am assuming that the sysadmin has paid his dues
>going through UNIX, and understands the concepts and can work with X or NT

If you understand Unix networking, you can get NT TCP/IP networking
up and running. Apart from that, you're out in the cold - most of your
hard gained Unix knowledge is void in NT land. The only thing you
profit from is that you know that you can understand a system, because
you've done it before. That sure helps with NT, because it is wont to
baffle you with its mysterious ways.  

>rather than starting from either platform... to me... that is a
>sophisticated user...

Versatile?

Bye,
-- 
>Thomas Baetzler
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