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- From: Scott Perlman <perlman@example.com>
- Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:23:57 +0900
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I'm not a linguist, but I think we're looking at different tings in teh languages diverging/converging. Among disparate communities languages diverge, however withing a community the language converges/maintains a common level. What is really happening is that the size and type of communities are changing throughout the world. The language extinctions are from small populations that are not self-sufficent in the global nature of todays world. Therefore inteh community they find themselves, they speak the dominant language. There are definitely effects from Technology slowing Language change within a community, But the change is not stopped. We can all understand Rebroadcasts from 50 or 60 years ago, but they don't sound normal anymore, the language has evolved. The English of someone who speaks with a group of people from various places is a far cry from the Enlighs of someone who has never spoken with someone from further than the next village. Even if they grew up in the same place. Our language communities are changin. They are no longer strictly geographically dependant, but have stronger ties to jobs, and behaviour patterns. Everyone on this list has probably been accused of talking to much tech stuff. There is a different vocabulary used by people who do a lot with computers than those who don't. window, text, jump, log, all have differnt meanings. Is this turly a seperate dialect? Not yet, but it could become one. -Scott Scott Stone did state upon Mon, Oct 19, 1998 at 06:27:24PM +0900: > On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, Jonathan Byrne wrote: > > > On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, Scott Stone wrote: > > > > > I'm not talking about languages WRT computers, I'm talking about languages > > > in general. Look at all the different dialects of German spoken in > > > Germany, and the different dialects of English spoken in America. Human > > > language is divergent, I tell you. > > > > Sorry, but all the evidence is against you on this one. Dialects > > of German and English may not ever disappear, but they are becoming more > > regularized, as are the regional dialects of Japanese. Where is was once > > the case that a typical native speaker from a given area spoke only the > > regional dialect, among younger Japanese today, most of them speak standard > > Japanese as well as the regional dialect, and there may well be some who > > speak only standard Japanese, even if they understand the regional dialect > > (I've met a few). > > > > Jonathan > > well, I suppose you're right - but it *does* seem that languages USED to > diverge, and now they're converging due to better information technology. > -- Beware hot fudge sundae! | perlman@example.com Especially when it comes on Tuesdae. | Scott Perlman One Day I will control the lightning! --------------------------------------------------------------- Next Nomikai: 20 November, 19:30 Tengu TokyoEkiMae 03-3275-3691 Next Meeting: 12 December, 12:30 Tokyo Station Yaesu central gate --------------------------------------------------------------- Sponsor: PHT, makers of TurboLinux http://www.pht.co.jp
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