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- Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:20:58 +0900 (JST)
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>>>>> "Frank" == Frank Bennett <bennett@example.com> writes: Frank> Some members of the list will undoubtedly have received a Frank> porno posting recently, which shows a bogus Nagoya Frank> University address in the "From:" field. This may have Frank> been a spite attack on our site, and I'm writing to see Frank> whether anyone has any bright ideas that I could pass on to Frank> the mail administrators here. Unfortunately, as far as I know there's nothing that can be done. To _stop_ it you need to stop the spam. What really needs to be done is for large ISPs (concentrate on the large ones because of the anonymity they accept and therefore provide) to start installing internal firewalls which process the outgoing headers of SMTP traffic for number of addresses and charge on that basis. I have suggested to UU.Net, ATT, MCI, IBM, AOL, and EArthLink that they use an exponential function. No reply, of course. It's obvious why they don't do this. Frank> Within a day after the attack, the server had received at Frank> least 20,000 complaint messages (or, who knows, requests Frank> for further details?), all of which were rejected because Frank> the "user" identified in the From: field was bogus. If the user is a constant, alias the user to the vacation program or the like, set up with a message that We suspect that your message is a response to a spam which did not originate at nor pass through our site. It was apparently from "..." and its subject was "...". We are sorry for the intrusion, but unfortunately, there is nothing we can do to prevent others from forging return addresses at our site. In the future, please remember that From headers are easy to forge (anyone with a PC can do so with the appropriate software). If you wish to send a complaint that may have some effect, do so to the originating site, which can be identified by tracing back the Received: headers (note that these headers can also be forged, and often are, to confuse you further). This could be done automatically (with a less specific message acknowledging that it was triggered by a robot and noting that you've been DOS-attacked, you don't like 'bots either but must defend yourself) by a script, but is also very easy to do by hand once the boilerplate is set up, you just copy in the Subject and From. Frank> AT&T, the Feds and CERT have all been notified. This is a "do" obviously. Frank> (Perl scripts to strip extraneous rubbish from syslog as it Frank> builds up, If you have space you should keep these logs ... Frank> quickie fixes to route mail into /dev/null, that sort of Frank> thing). ... and at least count the mail, preferably keep the addresses so that the complainers can be deposed. It may be used in court against the spammers someday. I will be testifying in such a case (defamation of character via spam) by phone on the 18th (at about 4am JST :-P). I suppose you could have them subpoenaed (that will teach them to analyze mail headers correctly ;-) but with >20,000 you should be able to find volunteers. There are generic spam-fighting web sites; I don't know if any deal with your problem. Most are more oriented to user filters than dealing with DOS-via-backlash attacks. There used to be a newsgroup news.admin.net-abuse that dealt with Usenet spam. Those people were concerned with high level control, use of cancel-bots and the like. You might look into comp.mail.*, look for "admin" and "abuse" subgroups. Back to grading the last batch of exams and writing the next :-( -- University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +81 (298) 53-5091 __________________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________________ What are those two straight lines for? "Free software rules." ---------------------------------------------------------------- Next Nomikai: 20 November, 19:30 Tengu TokyoEkiMae 03-3275-3691 Next Technical Meeting: 12 December, 12:30 HSBC Securities Office ---------------------------------------------------------------- more info: http://tlug.linux.or.jp Sponsors: PHT, HSBC Securities
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