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- Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:58:14 +0900 (JST)
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>>>>> "Scott" == Scott Stone <sstone@example.com> writes: Scott> On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Kei Furuuchi wrote: >> negative compromising statement that GS driver is inferior to >> Windows Scott> Basically this is true for many of the popular printers in Scott> Japan. If you have an HP inkjet or laserjet, gs works Scott> great. PostScript printers also work great. The problem Scott> you run into is with some of the popular Japanese non-PS Scott> laser printers, and some of the popular japanese inkjets, Scott> like the Epson Stylus. YOu can fix that by simply Scott> compiling in the gs driver (it's not, by default...), but Scott> it does take some tweaking, etc. That's not a Linux or Ghostscript issue. That's a distribution issue. If the Japanese distributions don't handle that issue, shame on them for not serving their user population properly. (It is not hard to write a Ghostscript driver, either, if one doesn't exist for your machine. Been there. Done that.) But I thought that was one of the advantages to VFlib?[a] Scott> 1. Printers come with win95 drivers. Note the lack of Scott> Linux support from the hardware manufacturers. Bullpucky. The hardware manufacturers support Ghostscript. Unevenly, of course. But go read the Ghostscript driver sources sometime, with specific emphasis on the authors and maintainers. Peter Deutsch (the Ghost@example.com) and Adobe are on fairly friendly terms. I believe he is also working directly with HP on the implementation of HPGL frontends for Ghostscript (ie, plug-and-play with the Postscript frontend, using the same printer drivers). Scott> 2. Linux distributions are limited to gs 3.x, due to that Scott> painfully stupid Alladin copyright that prevents us and Scott> other distributors from putting newer, better versions of Scott> ghostscript into linux distributions. Have you (== PHT) requested permission from Aladdin directly and been turned down? I've never asked Peter about Linux distributions directly. However, we have discussed freeware licensing issues. I don't think he has any problem with mere aggregation on a CD _if you have permission_, but I could be wrong. The Aladdin copyright was and is quite a painful choice for Peter, by the way, as it forced him to split with RMS, which decreases the usefulness of Ghostscript to individuals. You should also (possibly) direct some criticism at Stallman himself. Peter was evidently willing to permit Ghostscript to remain in GNU archives under the Aladdin license (and thus he evidently did _not_ object to aggregation into CD archives and OS distributions), but Stallman refused and booted (modern) Ghostscript out of the GNU family.[b] The point of the Aladdin license, since you evidently don't know the history, is to prevent the "mere aggregation" of Ghostscript _in ROM_ in printers and faxes, _which is permitted by the GPL_.[c] Peter is actively developing various specific capabilities under contract from various hardware and software manufacturers; he feels bound, both economically and ethically, not to release these supported developments to those manufacturers' rivals for free. Given the openness of Ghostscript development, it's quite easy to get your hands on a beta, which would permit irresponsible fly-by-night vendors to get those capabilities on the market before Peter wants to release them. After all, those vendors are only required to promise upgrades by the GPL, and Peter will make them available. Scott> Anyhow, let's try and avoid future anti-Win95 flame Scott> threads, or actually any flame threads at all, since that "Win95 sucks." Hmm. Barely room temperature. No flames there. Advocacy != flames. Scott> considerably more market share, and it's better to address Scott> it than to vilify Win95. But it's important to criticize Win95, too. At least in the service of avoiding the same mistakes for Linux. And vilification is something that any user, including newbies, can help with ;-) Even after a few beers. Scott> That's what the nomikais are for, anyway, since you can Scott> flame people and then blame it on the beer :) Poor, poor, Scott. What do you blame it on, then? :-) Footnotes: [a] Why the heck hasn't this been integrated into the main Ghostscript distribution? Does anybody know? There _is a specific API_ for platform fonts (X and TrueType are both supported), which would be the natural way to go, rather than maintaining Japan-localized distributions of Ghostscript. [b] Stallman apparently did this on legal advice suggesting that it could weaken the GPL with respect to other software in the GNU archive, so it's not clear to me that Stallman did a bad thing. I wish he hadn't, though. [c] Stallman does not have a problem with telling other people that protecting their intellectual property rights is wrong. :-( --------------------------------------------------------------- Next Nomikai: 15 May Fri, 19:30 Tengu TokyoEkiMae 03-3275-3691 Next TLUG Meeting: 13 June Sat, Tokyo Station Yaesu gate 12:30 Featuring Stone and Turnbull on .rpm and .deb packages --------------------------------------------------------------- a word from the sponsor: TWICS - Japan's First Public-Access Internet System www.twics.com info@example.com Tel:03-3351-5977 Fax:03-3353-6096
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