Re: tlug: Canna with Emacs 20.2 on RH 5.0?

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>>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull <turnbull@example.com> writes:

>>>>> "Irene" == Irene Langner <irene.langner@example.com> writes:
Irene> I am running Emacs 20.2 on RH 5.0 and don't like quail very
Irene> much so far.

Stephen> Welcome to the club.

I like quail for the input of German characters on a US-keyboard.
But somehow it doesn't seem to work anymore as it used to in Emacs 20.

It works nicely with "GNU Emacs 19.34.1/Mule Version 2.3". After

    M-x quail
    M-x quail-select-package,    latin-1

I  can enter  German characters  with  postfix  notation, eg o"  gives
o-umlaut. Why doesn't this work  anymore in Emacs  20? Does it work in
Xemacs 20?

There seems to be no information about quail in the info-files of 
Emacs 20. 

Stephen> (I basically disabled it under XEmacs because it got
Stephen> in the way of LEIM development; native Canna/Wnn works with
Stephen> LEIM.  

If native Canna/Wnn works with LEIM, then why doesn't it work with FSF
Emacs 20? Doesn't FSF Emacs also use LEIM?  What exactly is LEIM?

Stephen> Seriously, what do you need the upgrade for?  There are still
Stephen> people around happily using Emacs 18.59 + NEmacs.  I wasn't
Stephen> very impressed with the NEWS for Emacs 20.2.  If you can't
Stephen> come up with a good reason to switch, stay with what works.

I would like to  upgrade if the upgrade would  make it possible to use
German AND  Japanese in e-mails  (not  necessarily  both in  the  same
e-mail) AND good MIME support. With the old Emacs 19.34/Mule 2.3 which
I am using now, Japanese  works fine but German  doesn't.  I can enter
German with  quail, but when sending it  as an e-mail  it doesn't work
(only people who also use Mule will receive the German correctly).  If
this is not yet  possible, then it is  probably better for me to  stay
with the old Mule.

Stephen> XEmacs works with Canna and Wnn out of the box, and they are
Stephen> supported, as is XIM.  Emacs 20 provides XIM, so you can use
Stephen> Canna and Wnn via kinput2.  XIM is undocumented and a
Stephen> fortiori unsupported with Emacs 20.

What does ``a fortiori'' mean?

またね、

Mike

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