Re: tlug: programming

["Manuel M. T. Chakravarty" <chak@example.com>]

"Hirotaka Yoshioka" <hyoshiok@example.com> wrote,

> "Manuel M. T. Chakravarty" wrote:
> > Darren Cook <darren@example.com> wrote,
> > > >Doesn't make an difference, I would say.  Linux generally is
> > > >perfect for software development, as you have tons of
> > > >tools.  (Not very surprising, I guess, as it was written by
> > > >software people to suit themselves.)
> > >
> > > Has anyone tried out any of the the recent IDE's that have come out? I'm
> > > particularly interested in comparisons with Visual C++; especially the
> > > debugger.
> 
> I'm a Unix+xemacs programmer so it is biased.

Good bias ;-)

> > > Some notable features of the VC debugger are: moving the mouse over a
> > > variable brings a popup with it's value;
> > 
> > Don't know whether any of the GUI fronts to gdb can do
> > something like that (see above).
> 
> Use xemacs + gdbsrc mode or gud mode which is written by your ESR :-)

Sure, I use that.

> VC++ has a good cross reference tool which is a weak point
> of emacs. You may think emacs has etags but it is slow and does not
> understand a class hierarchy nor call graph etc.

I vaguely remember that I read somewhere about a class
browser, but I am not sure.

> VC++ has a nice profiling tool, a postmortem debugging tool,
> and so on. The big advantage of VC++ is that it is integrated
> in the Windows environment.

Sure, but that's not necessarily a bonus on Linux, I'd say.

Generally, it is a good thing to have a unified user
interface (eg, Emacs) to the various programming tools that
you use.  However, it is important that it is not
monolithic.  It should be possible to exchange and customise
the individual components and the expert user should be able 
to modify the integration and to extend it.  It should be a
modular system - like Unix.

Manuel

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