Re: tlug: Caldera Japanese version (more comments)

["Stephen J. Turnbull" <turnbull@example.com>]

>>>>> "Scott" == Scott M Stone <sstone@example.com> writes:

    Scott> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 shimpei@example.com wrote:

    >> Now I'm a bit scared. I'm not running anything right now
    >> besides KDE (just kwm, really; I'm too much of an command-line
    >> Luddite to bother with all those cute KDE utilities), Netscape,
    >> an army of kterms, and xemacs. How the heck does that add up to

kterms take up a lot of memory, but I don't know how much is shared.
You can probably recover 1-2 MB by shutting one down.

    >> ~115MB of memory usage?

    Scott> well, xemacs is taking a big chunk of that.

Yes, EMACS = Eight{,een,y,hundred,...} Megabytes And Constantly Swapping.
"How do I know which suffix to use?"  You are going to be sorry you
asked: the smallest one which exhausts RAM, of course.  ;-)

My current XEmacs session (four days old) is 35MB, which is about
right adding up the buffer space used (20MB -- I've got lots of
libraries loaded and VM does a _lot_ of consing, explaining the other
15MB).

    Scott> The thing that scares me is that my memory/swap usage never
    Scott> seems to go DOWN when I close apps.... well, a little bit.
    Scott> but my swap usage almost NEVER goes down by more than 1 or
    Scott> 2 MB.

Hmmm.  I've been running for a week, I just killed a 20MB netscape and 
got 15MB of RAM and 5MB of swap back.

    Scott> Eventually my system gets so slow that I have to completely
    Scott> reboot it to make it fast again, *even if I close all my
    Scott> apps and restart from the same point as if I were to reboot
    Scott> the box*...

How do you do that?  Most distributions nowadays still leave bunches of 
daemons running even after telinit s IIRC.


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